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mre · Senior Member

Assignment #16: Gender Issues Positions & Discussion

abrun · Member

Laws should enforce equal pay for equal work

Women cultivate more than half of all the food that is grown, yet women often get little recognition for that. In fact, many go unpaid. Women are generally underpaid because they often perform low-status jobs, compared to men.Estimated earnings per year (in 1000s of US dollars at 2003 prices)

Industrialized nations

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For many women, unpaid work in and for the household takes up the majority of their working hours, with much less time spent in remunerative employment. Even when they participate in the labour market for paid employment, women still undertake the majority of the housework.When women work outside the household, they earn, on average, far less than men. They are also more likely to work in more precarious forms of employment with low earnings, little financial security and few or no social benefits.Women not only earn less than men but also tend to own fewer assets. Smaller salaries and less control over household income constrain their ability to accumulate capital. Gender biases in property and inheritance laws and in other channels of acquiring assets also leave women and children at greater risk of poverty.Paid employment for women does not automatically lead to better outcomes for children. Factors such as the amount of time women spend working outside the household, the conditions under which they are employed and who controls the income they generate determine how the work undertaken by women in the labour market affects their own well-being and that of children. UNICEF, State of the Worlds Children, 2007

rodrigues09 · Member

2) Women make strong world leaders!

I think women will make a strong leader, we are as capable as man. Just because we are women doesnt mean we are less smarter or superior. How we going to show the world that we are a leaders if they are scare to give us an oppurtunity. After research and read about two amazing women Joan of Arc and Shirley it open my eyes to see that we are as powerful as men. Joan of Arc wasnt scared to stand up for her country and fought like a man in battles, also led France to victory. Shirley wasnt scared to stand up for what she belived on and she continue to have a voice on the society. We are what we think we are and i guess we just have to work harder to proove that we are a leader not a fallower. Ms Johnson-Sirleaf is the first women being elect in Africa and that shows that little by little we will become a leader.I strongly agree that women are leaders they just didnt have the oppurtunities to show it. biggrin

-- Edited by rodrigues09 at 16:08, 2008-12-04

-- Edited by rodrigues09 at 16:09, 2008-12-04

Cassy23 · Member

1) Women should serve equally in the military...
~~Strongly Agree....Women should be able to do anything that they set their minds on. If a woman wants to be in the military, she should be able to with no restrictions because she is a woman. Yes women are considered care-givers but im sure if a woman needs to be agressive during combat, i sure that women can be as agressive just like men. Without a doubt, being in the military is a physically demanding job that not everyone is fit to handle. I am sure that there are some women who have the physical strength and endurance to be soldiers. Concerning combat aviation some question whether women can handle the gravitational forces of an aircraft, but there is absolutely no evidence that says they cannot. It is interesting to note that everyone, including women, believe the physical standards should be identical for both men and women. If a woman wants to be in the military...i say let her.

elwilliams · Member

I strongly agree with statement number one, I believe women should serve equally in the military. Women are capable of having just as much strength and determination as any man. Why should women be treated differently than men, if a women wants to fight front and center of a war she should be able to do so. It is said that women, "being the "gentler sex", and typically being the main care givers in society, are less aggressive than men", which is absolutely untrue. There are some men who are more aggressive than women, and there are some women more aggressive than men, it goes both ways. So people shouldn't just assume women are less aggressive, less determined, and weaker. It's not about the gender it's about the person, man or woman.

sarahsnw · Veteran Member

1) I strongly disagree that women should serve equally in the military. I believe women have the job of keeping things in order. They are not violent. I dont believe men should be as violent in the wars either, but they still are. Women fighting for feminism shouldnt sink down to the level of some military men who even torture others from the opposing side. In the Iraq war, women were shown even torturing Iraq captives. Its not right. Why would women want to be equal in this situation? The war is a disgusting thing to me. I believe women should be aloud to keep people safe and healthy, that would be considered equal.

2) I somewhat agree that women make strong world leaders. With women usually seen as having the gentler side compared to men, it makes people a little uneasy. Women do make good decisions, but are easily broken down. Men seem to be able to hand more stress without showing emotion. I only somewhat agree because there are women in the world who are stronger than most men. Shirley Chishom for example, she would have been a very strong leader. She fought and fought, without hesitating to anyones word. She took issues into consideration, not letting them get to a stressful point. Women, in some cases, could make very strong world leaders.

3) I agree that women should be paid the same amount as men. They should be paid for their work, such as men. The laws should have nothing separating men and women, just humans in general. Its proven that women grow more food then men. Their job is to produce this food and they are very unpaid. In parts of Africa, women work to produce 80% of their basic foods. With that, they only make 28% of what men make. And the men produce very little! Its not fair for the women who have families to take care of. These paying issues have not changed because of the way the women have to choose their jobs. They get paid very little because they only are allowed to work low-status jobs. Men are doing jobs that are harder and require strength. I believe this does not give them a reason to get paid about 70% more than women do. Women having to deal with this are basically left in poverty. With their little control over their households and the gender bias laws, women are just being set up to live in poverty with their children. Women barely receive any benefits at the jobs they can find. They dont get anything. Its unfair, and I definitely agree that there should be laws created to change this.

KaylaG10 · Member

3.)Laws should enforce equal pay for equal work. How fair would it be if you worked and someone who was doing the same thing as you and worked as long as you got paid more? How would you feel? Thats how women feel when they know men are making more then them when they work hard then some men do. Graphs that have been shown women make approximately a half less then men. They have said, Reasons for such disparity include the fact that women are generally underpaid and because they often perform low-status jobs. Which I think is wrong because a woman who works at it pace same job still gets underpaid. They say women working less out a house hold has less benefit for a child which is totally wrong cause u still have time with your child and if your child goes to school you can work within school hours and have time to come home cook and have time which their children so they dont feel neglected. Women in different countries need money to work for their children to support them even if the father of the house hold makes money think about single parents and how they get lower salaries because they are thought to work lower. They still need to help their children and very little money does not help.

-- Edited by KaylaG10 at 16:15, 2008-12-04

IndiaRussell09 · Member

6) The rights of women should be internationally enforced in all countries. Think of the 'corners' we use in the class for discussion. Do you strongly agree, somewhat agree, strongly disagree or somewhat disagree.

I believe that womens rights should be internationally enforced for many reasons. Throughout history and all around the world, women have been treat unfairly and have been given limited expectations. Over time women have been seen as the housekeepers, care takers of the children, and the ones to take care of their husbands. I believe that all of these ideas of a womens place in society is completely false. The labor preformed by women all over the world makes it clear that they are able to do anything a man could do, and they should be treated equally. I strongly agree that women should be treated equally away from the fact that I am a female. It is their right and something women deserve for the many things they have accomplished in history.

-- Edited by IndiaRussell09 at 17:01, 2008-12-04

sarahsnw · Veteran Member

To elwilliams

You say that women have just as much strength and determination as men. Don't you think that they should use that strength towards peace and keeping people healthy, using it to do the right things? And not standing in front line in wars, killing people and destroying lives? Torturing captives? Is that something women should/want be equal to?

D.crosson · Member

I strongly agree with #3) "Laws should enforce equal pay for equal work."
I Believe that equal pay for equal work is imprtant because it reinforces the fact that works, work wether your black white spanish man or female it still deserves the same pay. with the exception of seniorty and raise and suppose that men and women work side by side on a line assembling machine parts. The person at the end of the line must also lift the assembled product as he or she completes the work and place it on a board. That job requires more effort than the other assembly line jobs if the extra effort of lifting the assembled product off the line is substantial and is a regular part of the job. As a result, it would not be a violation to pay that person more, regardless of whether the job is held by a man or a woman.

D.crosson · Member

elwilliams wrote:

I strongly agree with statement number one, I believe women should serve equally in the military. Women are capable of having just as much strength and determination as any man. Why should women be treated differently than men, if a women wants to fight front and center of a war she should be able to do so. It is said that women, "being the "gentler sex", and typically being the main care givers in society, are less aggressive than men", which is absolutely untrue. There are some men who are more aggressive than women, and there are some women more aggressive than men, it goes both ways. So people shouldn't just assume women are less aggressive, less determined, and weaker. It's not about the gender it's about the person, man or woman.

well my question would be can women handel the emotions that one would go threw on the front lines and still make a concious desiscion to not put there fellow soldiers in danger? or for that much still function under the extreme messure of full on frontline war?

edalton76 · Veteran Member

5) Women should receive half of all positions in government.

            I somewhat agree with this statement. I feel like more women should be involved in the way our government is executed, but I dont think there should be a specific benchmark or percentage of people who serve. In my opinion the decision should still come down to an election but I think that in many cases the media plays a huge role in why women are or are not elected. One example of this was Hillary Clinton. Although I did not support Hillary Clinton, I also didn't think she recieved the fairest treatment by the mainstream media. The media, quite frankly, portrayed her as a very dry, serious, cold woman, and it turned a lot of people off. Clinton could have very well been all of those things but the media didnt really help her either. For example when she cried in the coffee shop during the presidential primaries, many media outlets claimed that it appeared as if she was faking. It just seemed that because Hillary Clinton had to be strong to run for president people automatically starting calling her not-so-online-appropriate names.
             Here in America we believe that we allow equal opportunities for everyone, and while anyone is able to run for a public office, not many women win. According to PBS the U.S. ranks 69^th in the world when ranked on how many women hold a political office. I am not sure if the reason why we are so low on this list is that there are a lack of women interested in holding a governmental position or whether this is because women are struggling to win elections.
             In general I just think that there just needs to be more equality in how people are represented. Men who are strong and stick up for what they believe in are regarded to as strong positive leaders, while women who do the same thing are considered mean, and cold. It seems like no one can really get over the fact that there can be such things as strong, intelligent and capable women, who are more than able to hold a public office.

-- Edited by edalton76 at 17:20, 2008-12-04

AltonH · Member

3) Laws should enforce equal pay for equal work.

I Strongly agree that laws should enforce equal pay for equal work for women becouse if your doing the same amount of work as each other why cant you get paid the same women in make almost 10,000$ less then men do for doing a full time job and in 2005 it shows that women had a 7% higher education level completing a bachelor degree the % for women was 32% and for men was 25%
so if it goes for men who has the the highest level of education should get the highest earnins it should be same for women

-- Edited by AltonH at 17:21, 2008-12-04

elwilliams · Member

D.crosson wrote:

elwilliams wrote:

I strongly agree with statement number one, I believe women should serve equally in the military. Women are capable of having just as much strength and determination as any man. Why should women be treated differently than men, if a women wants to fight front and center of a war she should be able to do so. It is said that women, "being the "gentler sex", and typically being the main care givers in society, are less aggressive than men", which is absolutely untrue. There are some men who are more aggressive than women, and there are some women more aggressive than men, it goes both ways. So people shouldn't just assume women are less aggressive, less determined, and weaker. It's not about the gender it's about the person, man or woman.

well my question would be can women handel the emotions that one would go threw on the front lines and still make a concious desiscion to not put there fellow soldiers in danger? or for that much still function under the extreme messure of full on frontline war?

I absolutely believe women could handle the emotions of being in the front line. I think that just being in the army would teach anyone how to control their emotions. They would also learn to make decisions regarding their fellow soldiers. And there are men who might not be able to handle their emotions. So, that couldn't really be a reason to not allow women in the front line.

-- Edited by elwilliams at 17:22, 2008-12-04

jveloso8 · Member

mre wrote:

Source: http://research.umbc.edu/~korenman/wmst/links.html, http://www.globalissues.org/article/166/womens-rights, http://www.twnside.org.sg/women.htm

Background: There are many issues in America and the world today that affect women. Discussing them respectfully helps us learn about different perspectives and the nature of the issues themselves. There are many different positions to take on each of these topics below. Consider what yours will be and use the forum to share perspectives respectfully.

Assignment: Take a position on one of the following controversial statements: 1) Women should serve equally in the military, 2) Women make strong world leaders, 3) Laws should enforce equal pay for equal work, 4) Sexual violence should receive maximum prison sentences, or 5) Women should receive half of all positions in government, 6) The rights of women should be internationally enforced in all countries. Think of the 'corners' we use in the class for discussion. Do you strongly agree, somewhat agree, strongly disagree or somewhat disagree. Defend your position with researched evidence and facts to support your position.

Evaluation: Students will receive 80 points when they explain their position and defend it with detailed evidence (not just opinions) found in their research. Students will receive 10 points for a question, comment or suggestion to another student and 10 points for a reply to another students post.

5) Women should receive half of all positions in government I disagree with this statement. I disagree because not all women could perform as well as men in positions of the government. If it were mandatory for women to receive half it would be favoring them and would not be fair for the men. A womans mentality is different than a mans and sometimes in government a certain mentality is needed. 37% percent of women 16 or older who work in management, professional and related occupations, compared with 31 percent of men. It is clear that majority of the woman are capable to perform professional work but to state that women should receive half of all positions in government is favoring them in my opinion.

patriciaaaaxo · Veteran Member

December 5, 2008

Laws should enforce equal pay for equal work. I definitely believe that women should have equal pay for the same work the males do. The amount you receive on your check for the same occupation should be equal for everywhere, no matter race, color or gender. I more than strongly agree with this controversial statement. Its sad that women get paid 76 cents for every one-dollar paid to male workers. Men seem to get more work hours then women, on an average men put in 45 hours full-time while women put 42 hours. Men get higher advancements in their jobs while women get lower paying jobs. All the in equality needs to change; its not fair at all.

fahimmulti · Veteran Member

Assignment #16: Gender Issues Positions & Discussion
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Source: http://research.umbc.edu/~korenman/wmst/links.html, http://www.globalissues.org/article/166/womens-rights, http://www.twnside.org.sg/women.htm

Background: There are many issues in America and the world today that affect women. Discussing them respectfully helps us learn about different perspectives and the nature of the issues themselves. There are many different positions to take on each of these topics below. Consider what yours will be and use the forum to share perspectives respectfully.

Assignment: Take a position on one of the following controversial statements: 1) Women should serve equally in the military, 2) Women make strong world leaders, 3) Laws should enforce equal pay for equal work, 4) Sexual violence should receive maximum prison sentences, or 5) Women should receive half of all positions in government, 6) The rights of women should be internationally enforced in all countries. Think of the 'corners' we use in the class for discussion. Do you strongly agree, somewhat agree, strongly disagree or somewhat disagree. Defend your position with researched evidence and facts to support your position.

Evaluation: Students will receive 80 points when they explain their position and defend it with detailed evidence (not just opinions) found in their research. Students will receive 10 points for a question, comment or suggestion to another student and 10 points for a reply to another students post.

3) Laws should enforce equal pay for equal work

I strongly agree that women should recieve the same amount of pay as men do if they are doing the same job. why should'nt they get their rightful pay if they are doing an honest, descent job. they are human beings just like men are, and infact they should be treated even better just for the fact that they are women, they are mother of mothers, they are kind, nice, and tender hearted.
According to Inter Press Service, On a global scale, women cultivate more than half of all the food that is grown. In sub-Saharan Africa and the Caribbean, they produce up to 80 percent of basic foodstuffs. In Asia, they account for around 50 percent of food production. In Latin America, they are mainly engaged in subsistence farming, horticulture, poultry and raising small livestock. Yet women often get little recognition for that. In fact, many go unpaid. It is very difficult for these women to get the financial resources required to buy equipment etc, as many societies still do not accept, or realize, that there is a change in the traditional roles.

To rodrigues09:
how long do think it will take for women to get enough seats in the government as men?

to fahim:
do you think that women should get the same pay as men?

to kayla:
yes, i believe that women should recieve the same pay IF they do the same work.

edalton76 · Veteran Member

sarahsnw wrote:

To elwilliams

You say that women have just as much strength and determination as men. Don't you think that they should use that strength towards peace and keeping people healthy, using it to do the right things? And not standing in front line in wars, killing people and destroying lives? Torturing captives? Is that something women should/want be equal to?

Just because you don't agree with the way the war is going shouldn't affect how you feel about women in combat. The point isn't whether or not women should be responsible for killing others, because regardless of gender it is going to happen. I think that the point of the matter is, that women are JUST as capable of handling themselves in combat, if not better than a man. Put away the specifics of the Iraq war for now and just deal with the general question of whether or not women can do anything men can do.

-- Edited by edalton76 at 17:27, 2008-12-04

jaddyyma · Member

Assignment #16: Gender Issues Positions & Discussion _______________________________________________________

6. The Rights of women should be internationaly inforced in all countries.

i strongly agree us Americans are free and have our choice of freedom and do what we feel should be done. examples voting rights are seriouspart ofcountries and some countries cannot vote like Saudi Arabia. that just one. If in America Women can vote i fell we all as women should be equal to vote but that depends on right leader ship and they would be able to vote. Some women in these third world countries have to disguse themselves and their children they dont havethe right to be themselves and should be changed ASAP. Im sure these Women would adore to move to a Free country like our we are lucky people and some time take advantage of that we should be more apperciative and help these poor Women in these countries.

-- Edited by jaddyyma at 17:28, 2008-12-04

elwilliams · Member

sarahsnw wrote:

1) I strongly disagree that women should serve equally in the military. I believe women have the job of keeping things in order. They are not violent. I dont believe men should be as violent in the wars either, but they still are. Women fighting for feminism shouldnt sink down to the level of some military men who even torture others from the opposing side. In the Iraq war, women were shown even torturing Iraq captives. Its not right. Why would women want to be equal in this situation? The war is a disgusting thing to me. I believe women should be aloud to keep people safe and healthy, that would be considered equal.

2) I somewhat agree that women make strong world leaders. With women usually seen as having the gentler side compared to men, it makes people a little uneasy. Women do make good decisions, but are easily broken down. Men seem to be able to hand more stress without showing emotion. I only somewhat agree because there are women in the world who are stronger than most men. Shirley Chishom for example, she would have been a very strong leader. She fought and fought, without hesitating to anyones word. She took issues into consideration, not letting them get to a stressful point. Women, in some cases, could make very strong world leaders.

3) I agree that women should be paid the same amount as men. They should be paid for their work, such as men. The laws should have nothing separating men and women, just humans in general. Its proven that women grow more food then men. Their job is to produce this food and they are very unpaid. In parts of Africa, women work to produce 80% of their basic foods. With that, they only make 28% of what men make. And the men produce very little! Its not fair for the women who have families to take care of. These paying issues have not changed because of the way the women have to choose their jobs. They get paid very little because they only are allowed to work low-status jobs. Men are doing jobs that are harder and require strength. I believe this does not give them a reason to get paid about 70% more than women do. Women having to deal with this are basically left in poverty. With their little control over their households and the gender bias laws, women are just being set up to live in poverty with their children. Women barely receive any benefits at the jobs they can find. They dont get anything. Its unfair, and I definitely agree that there should be laws created to change this.

I don't agree with what you said in number one about women not being treated equally in the military, I think if the woman wants to be in the front line with the same rights as men she should be able to. I also disagree with your statement that women are to be in charge of keeping things in order. That may be the case with some women, but I don't believe that should be the case with ALL women.

dominik722 · Member

1) Women should serve equally in the military

strongly agree i feel women are fit to serve in the military. i think that if women want to enlist in the military they know the risks and responsabilitys that go along with it. also the fact that women can think in situations where men cant is another good reason why women should serve equaly in the military and also the streotype of women haveing alot of gentle compassion has been disproven in fact some women r more aggressive then men alos women should serve in all aspects of military they should be able to be drafted if needed, the frontline and all other aspects

-- Edited by dominik722 at 17:28, 2008-12-04

edalton76 · Veteran Member

fahimmulti wrote:
to fahim:
do you think that women should get the same pay as men?

to kayla:
yes, i believe that women should recieve the same pay IF they do the same work.

Do you consider what work a woman does to be less than that of a man?

In most cases of unequal pay, women are doing the same work if not more work than their male counterparts, while recieving little to no recognition or equal pay. I think that the whole point of the equal pay question is when people have the same occupation and pull the same workload shouldn't they recieve the same pay regardless of gender?

patriciaaaaxo · Veteran Member

To: JMa <3

Would you ever write to women out there and give them tips on how to seek help with inequality they face in their daily lives ?

Tay'le · Member

I strongly agree that the rights of women should be internationally enforced in all countries. A lot of people dont understand that many women around the world do not have equal rights. For example many women in rural Asia are deprived of transportation. An Indian case study on the transportation problems of women shows that women are not even aware of transportation as a separate aspect of their lives. Another is the name of Islam and segregation of the sexes, women and girls no longer have access to education, health care services, job and other means of gaining an economic livelihood or the right to freedom of movement. I strongly agree because I feel that all women around the world should all have equal and even the same rights. They should be able to have the great experiences the women in our country have. In addition endorcing womens rights would improve the society in the other countries. I think in order y\to live a great life or even a happy life freedom is the main thing.

-- Edited by Tay'le at 17:38, 2008-12-04

IndiaRussell09 · Member

to: Jveloso
Do you believe that you as a women are not as capable as a man?

You believe that a women could not preform as well as a man in office, what women in history have you see in government that has failed?

You mentioned the mentality fo women and how womans mental compacity is not able to preform the same as a mans. Do you think that this may be so because we as a society have been programed to believe such things?

claydir · Member

The reason I choose that the rights of women should be internationally enforce in all countries.Women do two-thirds of the worlds work, receive 10 percent of the worlds income and own 1 percent of the means of production. The Bangladesh government tried to hide behind laws to deny women equal rights, and in Pakistan they believe in doing honor killing for doing even the slightest thing wrong. Despite the almost universal ratification of the Convention a number of countries have still not signed or ratified it. The handfuls of remaining countries are: USA (signed, but not ratified), Iran, Qatar, Cook Islands, Nauru, Palau, Tonga, Somalia, and Sudan.Most countries avoid the fact that women plays a major part in the world just as much as some women do and in some cases they might play a higher role in societies life, theyve become leaders, some became activist for the cause they believed in. In some countries some are giving some opportunities to be leader, but in other countries their laws and religions denied them their rights and freedom that they should already have, just because they were born a women doesnt mean your freedom should be taken away from you. You be able to take part in anything in the world regardless of your gender, race, religion, and skin color.
to fahimmulti do you think they should receive the sasme amount because they are doing an honest, descent job, or because they work hard and longer?

edalton76 · Veteran Member

D.crosson wrote:

elwilliams wrote:

I strongly agree with statement number one, I believe women should serve equally in the military. Women are capable of having just as much strength and determination as any man. Why should women be treated differently than men, if a women wants to fight front and center of a war she should be able to do so. It is said that women, "being the "gentler sex", and typically being the main care givers in society, are less aggressive than men", which is absolutely untrue. There are some men who are more aggressive than women, and there are some women more aggressive than men, it goes both ways. So people shouldn't just assume women are less aggressive, less determined, and weaker. It's not about the gender it's about the person, man or woman.

well my question would be can women handel the emotions that one would go threw on the front lines and still make a concious desiscion to not put there fellow soldiers in danger? or for that much still function under the extreme messure of full on frontline war?

Technically couldn't that same question be posed to a man? As far as I am aware that there are more than enough scientific resources that prove that a woman can hold her composure much better than a male can. So who is to say women wouldn't be the better soldiers if allowed the same basic treatment?

Tay'le · Member

If you get a job doing the same job as another person and they got higher pay, Would you stick up for yourself?

patriciaaaaxo · Veteran Member

To: JMa , answering your question

These laws will be equal once people begin to stick up for themselves like they should. We have freedom of speech, and don't seem to use it in there types of situations.

jaddyyma · Member

Regarding patrich

when and how do you think these equal rights will get passed and women will make the same hourly pay as men and have the same benefits ?

jaddyyma · Member

Answering Patrich

yes i would if i had the money and the transportation i would help the world. i love you<3

-- Edited by jaddyyma at 17:39, 2008-12-04

vreyes09 · Member

6) The rights of women should be internationally enforced in all countries. Think of the 'corners' we use in the class for discussion. Do you strongly agree, somewhat agree, strongly disagree or somewhat disagree.

I strongly agree that the rights of women should be internationally enforced in all countries. For years women have worked hard to prove that they are capable of doing absolutly anything a man can do. The thoughts that women are here to take care of the house hold, get married, have children, and take care of their husbands, are so false. Women are not the only people who do those things, men do them too. Every year more and more women are enrolling in college and starting careers that normally men would do. So why shouldnt they have just as many rights as men?

vreyes09 · Member

i strongly agree with statement one: women should serve equally in the military.

Yes there may be some women that may not be able to handle fighting in an actual battle but there are men that are the same way.So why shouldnt women be able to fight along side men? the will power to do those things have nothing to do with the gender of a person it has to do with the personality and morals of the person. Men and women are equally capable of being on the frontline.

jessicalol · Veteran Member

mre wrote:

Source: http://research.umbc.edu/~korenman/wmst/links.html, http://www.globalissues.org/article/166/womens-rights, http://www.twnside.org.sg/women.htm and http://www.unfpa.org/swp/2005/presskit/factsheets/facts_gender.htm (a very good source)

Background: There are many issues in America and the world today that affect women. Discussing them respectfully helps us learn about different perspectives and the nature of the issues themselves. There are many different positions to take on each of these topics below. Consider what yours will be and use the forum to share perspectives respectfully.

Assignment: Take a position on one of the following controversial statements: 1) Women should serve equally in the military, 2) Women make strong world leaders, 3) Laws should enforce equal pay for equal work, 4) Sexual violence should receive maximum prison sentences, or 5) Women should receive half of all positions in government, 6) The rights of women should be internationally enforced in all countries. Think of the 'corners' we use in the class for discussion. Do you strongly agree, somewhat agree, strongly disagree or somewhat disagree. Defend your position with researched evidence and facts to support your position.

Evaluation: Students will receive 80 points when they explain their position and defend it with detailed evidence (not just opinions) found in their research. Students will receive 10 points for a question, comment or suggestion to another student and 10 points for a reply to another students post.

-- Edited by mre at 15:20, 2008-12-05

i choose questioin 3.) Laws should enforce equal pay for equal work. i belive that when it comes to having a professional its not gender that matters it how you imphasize your mind and put effort into ur area of expertice i dont belive that because ur a man ur more qulified then a women or smarter women can and are juss as strong mentally if not stronger than men im not tryin to lessin the ability of men but "Is it okay to think that because and man is the provider in most cultures and is beliived to be stronger than women ,Do u belive this is something that should affect the way they are judged in a workin enviornment? Is trongly belive that both genders diserve the equal amount of pay and work no matter the if they are a female or a male its all in the mentalitly of the amount of success u want to accomplish in u work force. according to the Researchers;

''Women not only earn less than men but also tend to own fewer assets. Smaller salaries and less control over household income constrain their ability to accumulate capital. Gender biases in property and inheritance laws and in other channels of acquiring assets also leave women and children at greater risk of poverty."

rodrigues09 · Member

i absolutely agree that women should have equal rights to serve on the militar. they say we are not strong like man but let me remind you who hold you 9 months on their stomach and gave birth to you. we are as capable as strong as man. i am going to national guard hopefully and i would want the same rights as man because i think i have the same potential as men. just because i am a woman doesn't mean i am less important. we are all humans and equal rights..

helena rodrigues

rodrigues09 · Member

i strongly agree with women rights being enforced around the world because look for example that women that was the first president elected on africa.. i think some countries are taking a step forward for women and others are just laying there like women is a slave.
we have so much potential on us why not show it..

helena rodrigues

jessicalol · Veteran Member

jaddyyma wrote:

Regarding patrich

when and how do you think these equal rights will get passed and women will make the same hourly pay as men and have the same benefits ?

i think the equal rights will get passed and women will make the same hourly pay as men and they will have the same benifits when women actually make a scandal about this to the media when we stand up for ourselfs and let them know some have a problem with the unequal wadges due to gender.

svizzy09 · Member

1) Women should serve equally in the military

I stronly agree with this because women should be able to do whatever they want. Many women would love to be on the frontline in the action instead of sitting around doing all the small work. No one should be able to tell them that they can not fight. Women are not able to fight at all and i dont think thats rite. Women should be treated equally and allowed to fight in combat. I dont see why they are not able to fight they are human beings just like men and will fight for the same purpose.

acevedo123 · Member

2) Women make strong world leaders!

I think women will make a strong leader, they are as capable as man. Just because they are women doesnt mean they are less smarter or superior. How women are going to show the world that they have the capacity to be a leaders if they are scare to give them the oppurtunity. After research and read about two amazing women Joan of and Shirley it open my eyes to see that we are as powerful as men. Joan of Arc wasnt scared to stand up for her country and fought like a man in battles, also led France to victory. Shirley wasnt scared to stand up for what she belived on and she continue to have a voice on the society. Women are what most of the people think they are and i guess they just have to work harder to proove that not only men are a leaders. Ms Johnson-Sirleaf is the first women being elect in Africa and that shows that little by little women will become leaders. I strongly agree that women are leaders they just dont have the oppurtunities to show it.

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mre · Senior Member

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mitchelltetreault · Member

Women should receive half of all positions in government.

I strongly disagree with this statement. Just because there are not as many women as men holding positions in the government doesn't mean we should give females more jobs to balance it out. Whoever is most suited for the position should hold it, not just because of their sex. This would be sexist against men. For example there could be a number of men who could fill the position better than a woman but because they must fill half, those men do not recieve an equal opportunity. It would be unfair to men to give half the jobs to females, but it would always be unfair to give the job to a man over a woman. If the woman is a better fit then the man, she should get that position.

ricky17 · Member

6) The rights of women should be internationally enforced in all countries

I think this is very true because people take women for granted. All women are equal to men. They should have the same opportunities and priveleges that men do. If women got treated equally then everyone could stop being frustrated over sexism. Women is the reason why men do so well in jobs. The women make the bosses think that if the girl does the same job and gets paid less then men would come to work more often and get the same salary. It makes guys feel superior.

mre · Senior Member

Grades Updated 12-10-08