Because I just KNOW you're going to ridicule at least one of my choices (my money's on Cronkite, Dylan, or Berry)... What's she doing there?
I'll have you know that had Cronkite in my top 100, she's very big. One of the first, if not the first, woman to gain major popularity and success through television. And she's definitely had a bigger impact than Bob Dylan and Chuck Berry.
Timothy Leary was what I was actually going to ridicule you for!
What's the scoring rubric we are going to use to actually determine who beats who? Because I also thought we could rate them off, precedence and how revolutionary they were.
Because I just KNOW you're going to ridicule at least one of my choices (my money's on Cronkite, Dylan, or Berry)... What's she doing there?
I'll have you know that had Cronkite in my top 100, she's very big. One of the first, if not the first, woman to gain major popularity and success through television. And she's definitely had a bigger impact than Bob Dylan and Chuck Berry.
Timothy Leary was what I was actually going to ridicule you for!
Dylan- More or less de facto voice of the 1960's and 70's protest movements, and folk music from then on. Berry- Revolutionary playing style influenced musicians around the world, including those back home, to make more edgy music. aka more or less everything you care about from the last half of the century. Leary- Father of the 1960's American drug culture, made LSD popular. Cronkite- was, to many Americans, the voice of the news.
Lucy- was on a couple sitcoms showing uncontroversial portrayals of wholly ordinary housewives. Why isn't Desi Arnaz on your list? He was the first Hispanic person to gain wide popularity on television, at least to my knowledge.
-- Edited by G. Larsen on Sunday 12th of April 2009 07:00:43 PM
Did you all get my email list of famous Americans? There are a bunch on that list that we haven't mentioned yet. You may want to consider them as well.
Oh, and we're also going to begin a project on events over the last 400 or so years, so we need to process this one by Wednesday at least.
Next step: eliminating doubles, then ranking people against one another, then determining criteria, then seeing who wins.
Leary- Father of the 1960's American drug culture, made LSD popular.
Lucy- was on a couple sitcoms showing uncontroversial portrayals of wholly ordinary housewives. Why isn't Desi Arnaz on your list? He was the first Hispanic person to gain wide popularity on television, at least to my knowledge.
-- Edited by G. Larsen on Sunday 12th of April 2009 07:00:43 PM
Ok, so Leary invented popularized a drug, how does/has LSD affected America in any measurable way.
And I'll have you know that Desi Arnez isn't on my list because 1) I didn't think of him 2) I think Lucy is more important than him and 3) He's not American
An effect does not have to necessarily be measurable to be important. That aside, LSD was one of the major reasons for the gigantic anti-drug backlash starting in the 70's and leading up to today. Nobody could really claim somebody microwaved a baby and tried to eat it while smoking marijuana. It also influenced the culture of the country. They called it psychedelic rock for a reason. As for Desi: 1. No excuse. 2. Why? 3. Alexander Hamilton was born on a little island in the Caribbean. Said island is not part of America. Then he moved to America. He's on your list.
November 21, 2006The 100 Most Influential AmericansPosted by John Steele Gordon at 10:45 AM EST The Atlantic
1) George Washington 2) Abraham Lincoln 3) Alexander Hamilton 4) Thomas Jefferson 5) James Madison 6) Henry Ford 7) DeWitt Clinton 8) Albert Einstein 9) Steve Jobs 10) James Gordon Bennett 11) Eli Whitney 12) Cyrus McCormick 13) Andrew Jackson 14) Franklin D. Roosevelt 15) Ronald Reagan 16) J. P. Morgan 17) The Wright Brothers 18) Martin Luther King, Jr. 19) Thomas Edison 20) John Marshall 21) James Watson 22) James K. Polk 23) Benjamin Franklin 24) Edwin Drake 25) Thomas Paine 26) Robert Fulton 27) Woodrow Wilson 28) Theodore Roosevelt 29) John Von Neumann 30) William Shockley 31) Mark Twain 32) Walt Disney 33) Stephen Foster 34) Harriet Beecher Stowe 35) A. T. Stewart 36) Sam Walton 37) Louis Sullivan 38) D. W. Griffiths 39) Cecil B. DeMille 40) Richard Sears 41) John Adams 42) John Jay 43) Ulysses S. Grant 44) P. T. Barnum 45) William Jennings Bryan 46) A. P. Giannini 47) Lewis and Clark 48) Julia Child 49) Earl Warren 50) David Dudley Field 51) George Gallup 52) Steven Spielberg 53) Rodgers and Hammerstein 54) Joseph Smith 55) Brigham Young 56) Cornelius Vanderbilt 57) William F. Buckley, Jr. 58) Peter Cooper 59) George Peabody 60) Nicola Tesla 61) Oliver Evans 62) John D. Rockefeller 63) William Johnson 64) William Boyle 65) Walt Whitman 66) George Kennan 67) Samuel Slater 68) Samuel F. B. Morse 69) Thomas Cole 70) Jerome Kern 71) Walter Reuther 72) Henry Clay 73) Daniel Webster 74) Noah Webster 75) William Maxwell Evarts 76) Louis D. Brandeis 77) Cyrus Field 78) James Fenimore Cooper 79) Frederick Jackson Turner 80) Rachel Carson 81) Alfred Thayer Mahan 82) Andrew Carnegie 83) John Brown 84) B. F. Skinner 85) William Lloyd Garrison 86) Henry James 87) Alfred Kinsey 88) Eugene ONeill 89) John James Audubon 90) Henry Flagler 91) William Faulkner 92) Edward R. Murrow 93) Francis Cabot Lowell 94) Frederick Law Olmsted 95) Benjamin Spock 96) Edward Hubble 97) Martha Stewart 98) Oprah Winfrey 99) Elvis Presley 100) Lorenz Hart
Jefferson Davis Duke Ellington Robert Morris Matthew Brady Oliver Wendell Holmes Robert Lafollette Daniel Webster Joseph McCarthy Robert E Lee Thomas Paine Tennessee Williams Harriet Beecher Stowe Clarence Darrow Elizabeth C. Stanton George Gallop Walt Whitman Emily Dickonson Allen Ginsberg Samuel Colt Clarence Birdsene John Adams John Quincy Adams Lewis & Clark Dred Scott Sam Houstan Charles Summer Patrick Henry William Tecumsah Sherman
Oh, and for picking them, if we could all just pick a group of ten (1-10, 11-20, 21-30, 31-40, 41-50, etc.) it'd be a lot simpler. There's thirteen of us and (ideally) 128 of them, so one person will get the final eight when they're filled in and the rest get ten apiece.
I'll take 21-30. Al Capone - Criminal. Leadership- 4 More or less ruled Chicago more than the politicians did at some points, as well as a complex organized crime group. Influence/Contribution- 3 He was one of many crime lords, although his image and status made him a cult image. Effectiveness- 3 He got caught in the end, but had a fairly decent run. Creativity- 2 Just went around running liquor and killing people, no real creativity needed there. OVERALL: 12/20.
John C. Calhoun- Politician. Leadership- 4 He rallied his fellow pro-slavery congressmen and later many pro-slavery Americans while serving in Congress and as Vice-President. Influence/Contribution- 4 He was part of the "Great Triumvirate," and prolonged and intensified the political battles about slavery and states' rights. Effectiveness- 5 He effectively defended his causes, and nearly succeeded in getting South Carolina to secede. Creativity- 3 Fought politicians who he thought were infringing on the South's rights using new tactics and innovative spins on old tactics, like nullification. OVERALL- 16/20
Cesar Chavez- Activist. Leadership- 4 Helped create and lead the UFW, which was relatively successful in gaining political support. Influence/Contribution- 3 Helped jump-start the Chicano movement in the U.S. and helped earn government concessions for several unions. Effectiveness- 3 Didn't get many of the concessions he sought to get, although certainly went a long way. Creativity- 2 Forming a union and using nonviolent protest were not particularly new ideas. OVERALL: 12/20.
Henry Clay- Politician Leadership- 5 As Speaker of the House and as a regular representative, he persuaded his peers to follow his lead in many difficult, contentious issues throughout his career. Influence/Contribution- 5 He was known as the "Great Compromiser," and for good reason. He was the architect of the Missouri Compromise. He created the American System program, as well. Effectiveness- 4 He never became president, but his programs were still wide-reaching. During the Nullification Controversy, his ideas ended up making the crisis worse. Creativity- 4 He designed the compromise and the American System intelligently and effectively. OVERALL: 18/20
Samuel Colt- Inventor, Businessman, Innovator Leadership- 3 He ran a moderately successful business. Influence/Contribution- 3 Colt helped develop and popularize a new kind of firearm: the revolver. Effectiveness- 3 He made and marketed the revolver, as he had set out to do. Creativity - 5 His ingenuity more or less ended up creating the precursor to modern firearms.
OVERALL: 14/20 Aaron Copland- Artist Leadership-2 Led a shift in the way music was written and performed, largely by example. Influence/Contribution- 4 He played an important role in shaping American composition of music. Effectiveness- 4 He exceeded his own expectations. He just wrote music, and didn't think he'd make much of a splash. Creativity - 5 As a musician, creativity was his life. OVERALL: 15/20
James Watson (Watson was the American one, not Crick. I'll just replace him here so Pam won't have to re-do all the numbers.) - Scientist Leadership- 3 He headed the Human Genome Project for three years, and left because the organization was planning to patent DNA sequences. Influence/Contribution- 4 Along with Francis Crick, built the correct model of DNA using past research and their combined brainpower. He also guided the Human Genome Project in its early years. Effectiveness- 3 Did help discover the shape of DNA, but failed to stop companies from patenting DNA sequences. Creativity- 2 Most of his and Crick's model was the result of previous images taken by other scientists. OVERALL: 12/20
Davy Crockett- Explorer, Military Leadership- 3 He acted mainly on his own, although he was an important figure in opposing President Jackson's Indian legislation and in the Tennessee Militia. Influence/Contribution- 4 He was the embodiment of American rugged individualism, and influenced future pioneers. Effectiveness- 3 His attempts to help the Native Americans fell on deaf ears, though his military career was successful. His exploration of Texas was not successful, however, since he was killed in the process. Creativity- 1 He had no really defining creative acts that I could find. OVERALL: 11/20
Clarence Darrow- Activist Leadership- 4 He helped lead the ACLU and acted as the strongest force for evolution the country had yet seen. Influence/Contribution- 4 He defended many innocent people, and helped make a strong point against creationism. Effectiveness- 5 Although he lost the Scopes Trial, the point was to make a strong point against creationism. He forced the prosecuting lawyer to admit that creationism was flawed. He also served the labor movement and many accused people well. Creativity- 3 Doubtlessly had to be creative to think on his feet and speak eloquently. OVERALL:16/20
Jefferson Davis- Politician, Military Leadership- 2 Davis held only a weak control over the Confederacy, partially because it was established as a highly decentralized government. He was not a strong leader. Influence/Contribution- 3 His most major accomplishments involved the appointments of generals for the Confederacy, and he did little else of real importance. Effectiveness- 3 As a figurehead, he served decently, but did little as a president. The generals he appointed, however, were excellent choices and helped the Confederacy last as long as it did. Creativity- 1 He did little of creative importance. OVERALL: 9/20
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Leadership- 3 I guess you could say she is viewed as a leader to aspiring judges, both men and women for what she has accomplished.
Influence/Contribution 4- Like I said her influence is great, of course other than becoming the first women in the Supreme Court did she really contribute anything that important.
Effectiveness 2- Effective in doing what? She hasnt failed or been impeached, does that qualify as effective?
Creativity 1- She was very creative with her choice for color of robe. (thats sarcasm everyone)
Tip ONeil-
Leadership- 2- He was the majority leader but other than that.
Influence/Contribution- 3- Anybody who was in politics that long clearly has a lot of influence, but has it really been that important to America.
Effectiveness- 2- He fought for universal healthcare so clearly, oh wait nevermind we still dont have it. But he does have a tunnel named for him.
Creativity- 2- He was just as creative as 99% of the politicians before him.
Lee Harvey Oswald-
Leadership- 1 But hed get a 5 in Following.
Influence/Contribution- 5 He arguably committed the most infamous crime in the US. His act is studied and had the greatest impact on modern (Last 50 years) history.
Effectiveness- 5 He killed who he was aiming for. But, his act was effective in creating hysteria and accomplishing whatever goal he set.
Creativity- 2 The way he set up the boxes in the book depository was genius, and the way he got that bullet to stop in mid-air was amazing. (thats more sarcasm or is it?)
J. Robert Oppenheimer-
Leadership- 4 He lead the greatest group of scientists to the most important and influential discovery in the history of man, oh and theres no arguing that.
Influence/Contribution- 5 The discovery and his work on it have affected the world in more ways than anything else EVER!
Effectiveness- 5 The discovery and it use was a success, well based on what the country was asking for.
Creativity- 3 I dont have any fun or witty remarks or any relevant things to say either.
Thomas Paine-
Leadership- 3
Influence/Contribution- 3
Effectiveness- 4
Creativity- 4
James K Polk-
Leadership- 3
Influence/Contribution- 4
Effectiveness- 4
Creativity- 4
Elvis Presley
Leadership- 2
Influence/Contribution- 3
Effectiveness- 4
Creativity- 3
Jackie Robinson-
Leadership- 3
Influence- 4
Effectiveness- 3
Creativity- 3
John D Rockefeller-
Leadership- 1
Influence- 3
Effectiveness- 3
Creativity- 3
Theodore Roosevelt-
Leadership- 5
Influence- 5
Effectiveness- 3
Creativity- 5
Norman Rockwell-
Leadership- 2
Influence- 4
Effectiveness- 3
Creativity- 4
-- Edited by Zachary W. on Tuesday 14th of April 2009 01:11:12 AM
-- Edited by Zachary W. on Tuesday 14th of April 2009 12:00:43 PM
Tyler W. wrote:12 rankings that I cut out so the page wouldn't get too long.
Ah geez. I think most people are going to end up using Pam's list, meaning there's a lot of overlapping going on. I suppose now we wait for Mr. Everett to come save us from the confusion we're creating.
I vote we have an established plan BEFORE we do the next one.
-- Edited by G. Larsen on Monday 13th of April 2009 11:04:55 PM
I'll do these names. It'll be more than 10 (12 to be exact), but this way someone will end up with less than 10 and can add some names to make up for the missing 8.
I am doing the last 10 names off of James' list he posted..... they are : Samuel Colt Clarence Birdsene John Adams John Quincy Adams Lewis & Clark Dred Scott Sam Houstan Charles Summer Patrick Henry William Tecumsah Sherman
-- Edited by Walter on Monday 13th of April 2009 11:29:49 PM
Its okay Greg, those who overlapped can do the extra names, i guess. If they don't mind...
BTW i'm editing the list so that the ones being done are highlighted, and the name of who's doing it is beside it.
-- Edited by piracine on Monday 13th of April 2009 11:17:13 PM
Ok, I guess if you don't mind sitting watch and highlighting the list, that works. I'll do a few extras, whoever's left after the picking frenzy ends.
I don't mind sitting here and fixing up the list (Not too much anyway :P) But I'm just warning you that I am going to bed at 11, no ifs ands or buts. After that I'll have to fix it in class tomorrow.
so is it pretty much take what we want to do? does anyone have any preferences that they DON'T want, so i can take those? i kind of forget tonight's assignment, so...
1. Helen Keller 2. M.L.K. Jr. 3. Robert E Lee 4. Douglas MacArthur 5. John Marshall 6. Joseph McCarthy 7. Harvey Milk 8. Marilyn Monroe 9. James Monroe 10. Samuel Morse
HELEN KELLER Leadership-3 Influence/Contribution-4 Effectiveness-3 Creativity-4 M.L.K. JR. Leadership-5 Influence/Contribution-5 Effectiveness-4 Creativity-3 ROBERT E. LEE Leadership-4 Influence/Contribution-5 Effectiveness-4 Creativity-2 DOUGLAS MCCARTHUR Leadership-4 Influence/Contribution-3 Effectiveness-2 Creativity-1 JOHN MARSHALL Leadership-4 Influence/Contribution-4 Effectiveness-4 Creativity-3 JOSEPH MCCARTHY Leadership-3 Influence/Contribution-4 Effectiveness-4 Creativity-2 HARVEY MILK Leadership-4 Influence/Contribution-3 Effectiveness-3 Creativity-2 MARILYN MONROE Leadership-1 Influence/Contribution-4 Effectiveness-3 Creativity-1 JAMES MONROE Leadership-4 Influence/Contribution-5 Effectiveness-4 Creativity-2 SAMUEL MORSE Leadership-2 Influence/Contribution-4 Effectiveness-3 Creativity-5
-- Edited by joel the not so brave on Tuesday 14th of April 2009 12:52:11 AM
The names that aren't highlighted on the list (These are the names left over guys!)
Specifically: William JenningsBryan Sitting Bull Emily Dickinson Walt Disney WEB Dubois Duke Ellington George Gallop Geronimo Allen Ginsberg Franklin Roosevelt Eleanor Roosevelt Babe Ruth Sacagewea Margaret Sanger Upton Sinclair Elizabeth C. Stanton Harriet Beecher Stowe
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Sam Adams Jane Addams Louis Armstrong Neil Armstrong Isaac Asimov Clara Barton Chuck Barry Alexander Graham Bell Leonard Bernstein Amelia Bloomer John Wilkes Booth
Sam Adams Jane Addams Louis Armstrong Neil Armstrong Isaac Asimov Clara Barton Chuck Barry Alexander Graham Bell Leonard Bernstein Amelia Bloomer John Wilkes Booth
Leadership: 3-Though he did lead his various raids, his most ardent followers were his kids, not much leadership there. Influence: 5-Pretty much can be blamed for the start of the Civil War. Effectiveness: 2-His first conflict he won, the slave uprising, failed. Badly. Creativity: 2-He wasnt really creative, unless you count getting hidden benefactors as creative, or starting slave rebellions, none of which are.
Total: 12/20
Thomas Alva Edison-Inventor
Leadership: 4- In essence, led the first research teams, (mass produced patents). Shows some leadership there. Influence: 4- Pioneered in the fields of telecommunications and mass production. Effectiveness: 5- His strategies for inventing definitely worked. Creativity: 5- 1093 patents in the U.S. alone. No other fact is necessary.
Total 18/20
Ben Franklin-Inventor/Politician/Superman
Leadership: 5- He secured the French-American alliance, and was a mediator during the Constitutional Convention. Influence: 5- Weve all heard of him and seen his achievements. Effectiveness: 5- His inventions, treaties, and compromises all worked, as did his library and fire department. Creativity: 5- This man was a scientific genius.
Total 20/20
Samuel Gompers- Activist Leadership: 5- Led and created the AFL quite successfully. Influence: 3-None of his personal achievements seem to have much influence on the world as much as the AFL did. Effectiveness: 4-He led well, and fought for labor rights with many successes. Creativity: 2- Unless you give him credit for organizing multiple unions into one, not very creatively driven.
Total: 14/20
Ulysses S Grant- Politician/Military
Leadership: 4- His political shortcomings damage his record as a general. Influence: 5- Effectively won the Civil war. Effectiveness: 5- His strategy in the Civil War helped bring the North the victories it needed. Creativity: 4- His military actions were not those traditionally used, so I give him credit for that.
Total 18+1/20 Points awarded for the entire bottom half of his face being hair.
Andrew Johnson- Politician
Leadership: 1-He was impeached for his actions. Influence: 3- He was the first president to be impeached, must count for something. Effectiveness: 1- All of his Reconstruction policies were reversed. Creativity: 1- Unless staying with the Union was part of some master plan to become VP, I have no idea how he was creative.
Total: 6/20
LBJ-Politician
Leadership: 4- Johnson treatment. Landslide election victory. Influence: 4- Vietnam War, Medicare, other Great Society programs. Effectiveness: 4- He was able to fight his war in Vietnam quite effectively ignoring the chain of command, and parts of the Great Society are still in use today. Creativity: 3- The Great society was a good idea.
Total: 15/20
JFK : Politician
Leadership: 5-Even today, one of the most well-liked presidents. Influence: 5- As Greg pointed out, he brought the world towards nuclear war, but helped keep it out of war. Effectiveness: 3- Bay of Pigs? Vietnam? NASA. New Society. A nice mixed bag. Creativity: 2- Not that creative.
Robert La Follette- Politician
Leadership: 4- As governor, he led the country in Progressive government. Influence: 4- As a senator is regarded as one of the best of all time in some surverys. Effectiveness: 5- Successfully utilized Progressive ideals in a real setting Creativeness: 3- His ideas were a mix of his own and him compatriots.
Total: 16/20
Stan Lee-Artist
Leadership: 3- Except leading art teams, not really a leader. Influence: 5- Created the team comic concept thats used so often. Effectiveness: 5- Hes still making movies and comics, so it must be working. Creativeness: 5- Itd better be, its is lifestyle
Total: 18+1 Good mustache Stan Lee.
-- Edited by James on Tuesday 14th of April 2009 11:48:47 AM
-- Edited by James on Tuesday 14th of April 2009 11:49:48 AM
James wrote:Ulysses S Grant- Politician/Military Influence: 3- The term Grantism now stands for political corruption. Whoop de doo. LBJ-Politician Influence: 2- Really wasnt all that influential in my opinion.
JFK : Politician
Influence: 4- His getting killed opened up new waves of paranoia.
Stan Lee-Artist Influence: 5- Created the team comic concept thats used so often.
(emphases and snips mine)
U.S. Grant: Provided a much-needed change in tactics that ended up ensuring that the Union would win the Civil War.
LBJ: Greatly expanded U.S. involvement in Vietnam. Had near-unlimited authority in Vietnam. He could (and did!) pick up his phone and tell bomber pilots to change their targets. Started social programs like Medicare, Medicaid, and federally-assisted housing projects. Signed the Civil Rights Act and Voting Rights Act.
JFK: Brought the world to the brink of nuclear war and back. Used his authority to set up a secret invasion of a sovereign nation, then owned up to it when it came out. Founded the Peace Corps. Set the wheels in motion to win the moon race against the Soviets. As you mentioned, got assassinated, spreading fear across the country.
Stan Lee: Created some fictional characters. Thought of relatively original plots for his preferred literary medium, which were then copied ad nauseum.
William Harvey, Jim Henson, Alfred Hitch****, Oliver Wendell Holmes, J Edgar Hoover, Crazy Horse,harles Lindbergh, George Marshall, Robert Morris and Sandra Day O'Connor.
We're going to have to agree to disagree, I suppose. I maintain that Stan Lee's and Isaac Asimov's contributions to American history are greatly overshadowed by U.S. Grant's, LBJ's, and JFK's, and that their scores ought to reflect that. I cite the reasons stated above, as well as before class and in class.
-- Edited by G. Larsen on Wednesday 15th of April 2009 03:46:03 AM
Hellen Keller:N/A MLK:2 Robert E. Lee:4 Douglas McCarthur:N/A John Marshall:2 Joseph McCarthy:N/A Harvey Milk:N/A Marilyn Monroe:N/A James Monroe:N/A Samuel Morse:5
Leadership: 1- Except leading art teams, not really a leader. Influence: 3- Highly influential on Marvel and perhaps DC comics, as well as the movie industry in the late 90's to 2000's. Effectiveness: 4- He's still making movies and comics, so it must be working. Creativeness: 5- It'd better be, its is lifestyle
To be debated: Sitting Bull Susan B Anthony Ben FRanklin Louis Armstrong Walt Disney Isacc Assimov Stoakly Carmichael George Washington Lee Harvey Oslwald Helen Keller Clara Barton Louis and Clark Oppenheimer Teddy Roosevelt Bill Gates Henry Clay Sam Colt Eleanor Roosevelt FDR William Sherman JP Morgan JFK LBJ John Adams Nat Turner Leonard Bernstein Zinn Jessica
Samuel Colt: Leadership-3 Led a major corporation well. Influence/Contribution-4 His work on the revolver helped create the modern handgun. Effectiveness-5 He helped shape the west in the mid-late 1800s by making revolvers both affordable and useful. Creativity-3 He designed the original design for the revolver.
John Adams: Leadership-4 He was a good revolutionary leader, but a crappy President Influence/Contribution-3 Great Revolutionary Effectiveness-3 Revolution Creativity-2
John Quincy Adams: Leadership-5 Influence/Contribution-4 Effectiveness-3 Creativity-2
Lewis & Clark: Leadership-5 Led the first exploration across the America west. Influence/Contribution-4 they made the first accurate maps of the american west coast Effectiveness-5 sparked western movement Creativity-4 Had to be creative to survive journey.
Sam Houston: Leadership-5 Brilliant general and texan revolutionary leader. Without him Texas probably would have been defeated. Influence/Contribution-4 He led the Texan army to victory over Santa Ana Effectiveness-5 Creativity-4
Charles Summer: Leadership-3 Influence/Contribution-2 Effectiveness-2 Creativity-2
Patrick Henry: Leadership-4 Influence/Contribution-4 Effectiveness-5 Creativity-4
William Tecumseh Sherman: Leadership-5 Influence/Contribution-4 Effectiveness-5 Creativity-5
